UPPER AND CENTRAL LONG ISLAND BEACHES
visited September 2018
THE HAMPTON BEACHES - UPPER LONG ISLAND
The HAMPTONS portion takes upwards virtually the eastern-most 3rd of LONG ISLAND. There had been much debate (rec. read - some amusing comments) virtually whether a identify is inwards the HAMPTONS or non - but the full general consensus is anywhere due east of the SHINNECOCK INLET/CANAL is inwards these days EXCEPT for SHELTER ISLAND (maybe all that hoi poloi partying upsets the sensitivity of the rich dudes). Note WESTHAMPTON due west of the trouble misses out - from what I tin get together many of its residents are glad non to endure associated amongst over-rich "citidiots".
Originally the HAMPTONS was regarded every bit that surface area around the towns of EAST HAMPTON as well as SOUTH HAMPTON but over the yesteryear 50 years to a greater extent than as well as to a greater extent than rich folk from NYC looking for a non besides distant beach/near-beach escape receive got expanded it to its introduce size.
Note SOUTH ARM as well as NORTH ARM. The latter is way to a greater extent than rural but because it has WINE GROWING as well as broad opened upwards spaces for the large terra firma retreat, has equal cachet amongst the snobs.
OVER-HYPED as well as OVER-PRICED.
My convey on the HAMPTONS:
These yesteryear 50 years I've read heaps virtually New Yorkers escaping to THE HAMPTONS for an upmarket weekend or vacation - how rattling rich dudes receive got the BIG ESTATE there. I thought this must endure somewhere VERY special - mayhap a chip similar the COTE D'AZUR.
It 's NOT.
By basis standards this is a rattling ordinary surface area amongst pretty underwhelming countryside (most of LONG ISLAND is the effect of glacial outwash as well as sand deposition hence yous are looking at fairly apartment rattling ordinary countryside - UPPER NY STATE kills it amongst some truly lovely areas) and ordinary beaches (none I saw would brand my exceed 1000. Hell the best wasn't every bit proficient every bit the worst of the four inwards my dwelling identify town (pic downward page) - as well as THAT wouldn't brand my1000).
But the affair is all those rich dudes receive got bid upwards the toll of existent estate as well as hyperboled the pretense that this is somewhere rattling special. By basis standards it's not. I tin holler back of dozens of places inwards the GREEK ISLANDS as well as SPAIN lonely would kill it.
The giggle is, thank yous to Australia's ridiculous existent estate boom, I could sell my fairly little seaside dwelling identify non far from SYDNEY as well as purchase a pretty proficient HAMPTONS' articulation - non 1 of those huge trophy spreads but far ameliorate than the average. And I'm a retired dude on a rattling skinny part-pension. Take that NYC rich poseurs.
MONTAUK BEACHES
The KIRK PARK department of MONTAUK BEACH
Montauk is every bit far due east every bit towns larn at LONG ISLAND/THE HAMPTONS. It's a chip over three hours yesteryear educate from MANHATTAN - as well as abt 120 route miles. xx years agone it was considered a dormitory surface area for HAMPTON service workers, but the inevitable expansion caused yesteryear trendoids seeking a beach escape identify has it directly firmly entrenched every bit utilization of the existent deal.
UNDERWHELMING MONTAUK BEACH
This is SOUTH EDISON BEACH, the closest to town central. As yous tin run into it aint just a flick - sand closer yellow-brown than yellow-white, lotsa churned weed defacing the swash zone - non all that broad especially at high tide every bit the tide-line shows as well as 1 of those looong, featureless, no headlands strips of sand which practise goose egg for me. It really extends 2m/3.2km due east inwards the background, becoming at some betoken DITCH PLAINS BEACH. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few hundred meters behind photographic television camera is west-central MONTAUK's KIRK BEACH.
Note the relative lack of beach goers early on afternoon on a dainty SEPT Sun - but nosotros are talking mayhap ii weeks after LABOR DAY, the official cease of summertime - as well as several sources said people simply STOP going to the beach after Labor Day. This is a chip of a surprise to me - from my travels inwards OZ, the MEDITERRANEAN as well as SE ASIA I've constitute the calendar month or to a greater extent than after HIGH SEASON (what nosotros would telephone band SHOULDER SEASON) is an splendid fourth dimension for depression budget dudes to move - conditions is withal splendid as well as prices/vacancies way lower. Seems NE States has no Shoulder Season.
What worries me to a higher identify are those dune-perched motels as well as units - adjacent super tempest they confront tempest surges amongst the associated moving ridge assault as well as undermining. Thing is this FORE-DUNE is wretched protection-wise yesteryear basis standards - fundamental MONTAUK is simply behind as well as faces inundation.
There are precedents - EG several communities on a similar stretch of FIRE ISLAND beach (to the southward of MONTAUK)_have lost start row beachfront residences to STORM SURGE/WAVE ATTACK during SUPERSTORM SANDY inwards 2012. As recent every bit MARCH 2018 the "new" beachfront properties suffered bad tempest moving ridge cut.
MONTAUK VIA GOOGLE EARTH
Not just a broad barrier betwixt body of body of water as well as town.
Turning the photographic television camera 180 degrees from the 'UNDERWHELMING" shot a chip up-page finds MORE Underwhelming stuff. Arrow points at the KIRK PARK department of MONTAUK BEACH. At to the lowest degree the beach appears a chip wider from the total tide mark.
From hither the beach continues 110mi/180km due west - yesteryear inlets similar SHINNECOCK mentionsed above, along several BARRIER ISLANDS. all the way to CONEY ISLAND/ROCKAWAY BEACH nigh JFK.
Mmmmm - WEATHER NERDS similar me volition in all probability endure wary of booking beachfront articulation similar this (if nosotros tin afford them - MONTAUK accommodation is EYE-BLEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE fifty-fifty after LABOR DAY). Others won't give a damn, as well as proficient luck to them. I mean, how oftentimes does a SUPERSTORM dismiss up??
IN GOOD TIMES
Aware that my see powerfulness non receive got been at the best fourth dimension to showcase MONTAUK BEACHES, I went looking on GOOGLE IMAGES for a pic showing it at its best - came upwards amongst this 1 from NEWSDAY.
OK, hence it shows DITCH PLAINS some distance due east of my pix - but DP is withal a MONTAUK BEACH - I abide by most interesting the crowd - evidently HIGH SEASON earlier LABOR DAY.
Now here's the affair - plenty of people may come upwards as well as receive got a neat 24-hour interval nether idyllic conditions - I'm thinking 1 of those high-summer days amongst a hot low-cal offshore breeze blowing. And later on some dude from the upper due west side doesn't larn to the beach oftentimes fires inwards a TRIPADVISOR review proverb MONTAUK BEACH is the best beach inwards the world. It's not. By a long shot.
MONTAUK TOWN.
Thing I got from walking around the town was TRY-HARD. This is an OK coastal town but hence many places practise it ameliorate - inwards the NE banking concern fit out CAPE MAY inwards NEW JERSEY. Internationally at that topographic point are thousands: hell, SAMOS, non anywhere nigh the best GREEK ISLAND, has one-half a dozen coastal towns/villages way better.
MONTAUK fancies itself every bit a chip of a SURFERS' town. Lotsa surf-shops as well as I receive got to acknowledge - post LABOR DAY sales offering some pretty proficient gear at non-rip-off prices. But here's the affair - the prevailing air current around hither is the SE onshore SEA-BREEZE which tends to gain pretty sloppy surf conditions. Plus at that topographic point are no headlands for protection. I didn't run into GABRIEL MEDINA as well as pals waiting around for the proficient stuff.
MY MONTAUK ACCOMMODATION
I kinda thought post LABOR DAY as well as a Sun nighttime would larn me some discounted accommodation. But every bit mentioned up-page, Montauk places tend to endure EYE-BLEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE. Like airbnb places at a K a night?? Shoulder season??
The alone identify I constitute at a somewhere acceptable toll was DAUNT'S ALBATROSS MOTEL Even then, I ended upwards paying the most of my four calendar week NE States trip which included a nighttime at an ANTLANTIC CITY CASINO. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few steps upwards from DAUNT'S.
DAUNT'S similar the town as well as beach was a chip ordinary. For those interested inwards Montauk accommodation, I posted my findings on DAUNT'S hither nether "A TALE OF TWO RATINGS"
CONCLUSION - some of yous may endure thinking I was less than gruntled virtually MONTAUK. Not incorrect kemodabes. Pretentious poseurs' paradise.
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EAST HAMPTON BEACH.
In my pre-trip question I constitute a much debate (rec. read - some amusing comments) virtually whether a identify is inwards the HAMPTONS or non - but the full general consensus is anywhere due east of the SHINNECOCK INLET/CANAL is inwards these days EXCEPT for SHELTER ISLAND (maybe all that hoi poloi partying upsets the sensitivity of the rich dudes). Note WESTHAMPTON due west of the trouble misses out - from what I tin get together many of its residents are glad non to endure associated amongst over-rich "citidiots".
Originally the HAMPTONS was regarded every bit that surface area around the towns of EAST HAMPTON as well as SOUTH HAMPTON but over the yesteryear 50 years to a greater extent than as well as to a greater extent than rich folk from NYC looking for a non besides distant beach/near-beach escape receive got expanded it to its introduce size.
Note SOUTH ARM as well as NORTH ARM. The latter is way to a greater extent than rural but because it has WINE GROWING as well as broad opened upwards spaces for the large terra firma retreat, has equal cachet amongst the snobs.
OVER-HYPED as well as OVER-PRICED.
My convey on the HAMPTONS:
These yesteryear 50 years I've read heaps virtually New Yorkers escaping to THE HAMPTONS for an upmarket weekend or vacation - how rattling rich dudes receive got the BIG ESTATE there. I thought this must endure somewhere VERY special - mayhap a chip similar the COTE D'AZUR.
It 's NOT.
By basis standards this is a rattling ordinary surface area amongst pretty underwhelming countryside (most of LONG ISLAND is the effect of glacial outwash as well as sand deposition hence yous are looking at fairly apartment rattling ordinary countryside - UPPER NY STATE kills it amongst some truly lovely areas) and ordinary beaches (none I saw would brand my exceed 1000. Hell the best wasn't every bit proficient every bit the worst of the four inwards my dwelling identify town (pic downward page) - as well as THAT wouldn't brand my1000).
But the affair is all those rich dudes receive got bid upwards the toll of existent estate as well as hyperboled the pretense that this is somewhere rattling special. By basis standards it's not. I tin holler back of dozens of places inwards the GREEK ISLANDS as well as SPAIN lonely would kill it.
The giggle is, thank yous to Australia's ridiculous existent estate boom, I could sell my fairly little seaside dwelling identify non far from SYDNEY as well as purchase a pretty proficient HAMPTONS' articulation - non 1 of those huge trophy spreads but far ameliorate than the average. And I'm a retired dude on a rattling skinny part-pension. Take that NYC rich poseurs.
MONTAUK BEACHES
The KIRK PARK department of MONTAUK BEACH
Montauk is every bit far due east every bit towns larn at LONG ISLAND/THE HAMPTONS. It's a chip over three hours yesteryear educate from MANHATTAN - as well as abt 120 route miles. xx years agone it was considered a dormitory surface area for HAMPTON service workers, but the inevitable expansion caused yesteryear trendoids seeking a beach escape identify has it directly firmly entrenched every bit utilization of the existent deal.
UNDERWHELMING MONTAUK BEACH
This is SOUTH EDISON BEACH, the closest to town central. As yous tin run into it aint just a flick - sand closer yellow-brown than yellow-white, lotsa churned weed defacing the swash zone - non all that broad especially at high tide every bit the tide-line shows as well as 1 of those looong, featureless, no headlands strips of sand which practise goose egg for me. It really extends 2m/3.2km due east inwards the background, becoming at some betoken DITCH PLAINS BEACH. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few hundred meters behind photographic television camera is west-central MONTAUK's KIRK BEACH.
Note the relative lack of beach goers early on afternoon on a dainty SEPT Sun - but nosotros are talking mayhap ii weeks after LABOR DAY, the official cease of summertime - as well as several sources said people simply STOP going to the beach after Labor Day. This is a chip of a surprise to me - from my travels inwards OZ, the MEDITERRANEAN as well as SE ASIA I've constitute the calendar month or to a greater extent than after HIGH SEASON (what nosotros would telephone band SHOULDER SEASON) is an splendid fourth dimension for depression budget dudes to move - conditions is withal splendid as well as prices/vacancies way lower. Seems NE States has no Shoulder Season.
What worries me to a higher identify are those dune-perched motels as well as units - adjacent super tempest they confront tempest surges amongst the associated moving ridge assault as well as undermining. Thing is this FORE-DUNE is wretched protection-wise yesteryear basis standards - fundamental MONTAUK is simply behind as well as faces inundation.
There are precedents - EG several communities on a similar stretch of FIRE ISLAND beach (to the southward of MONTAUK)_have lost start row beachfront residences to STORM SURGE/WAVE ATTACK during SUPERSTORM SANDY inwards 2012. As recent every bit MARCH 2018 the "new" beachfront properties suffered bad tempest moving ridge cut.
MONTAUK VIA GOOGLE EARTH
Not just a broad barrier betwixt body of body of water as well as town.
Turning the photographic television camera 180 degrees from the 'UNDERWHELMING" shot a chip up-page finds MORE Underwhelming stuff. Arrow points at the KIRK PARK department of MONTAUK BEACH. At to the lowest degree the beach appears a chip wider from the total tide mark.
From hither the beach continues 110mi/180km due west - yesteryear inlets similar SHINNECOCK mentionsed above, along several BARRIER ISLANDS. all the way to CONEY ISLAND/ROCKAWAY BEACH nigh JFK.
Mmmmm - WEATHER NERDS similar me volition in all probability endure wary of booking beachfront articulation similar this (if nosotros tin afford them - MONTAUK accommodation is EYE-BLEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE fifty-fifty after LABOR DAY). Others won't give a damn, as well as proficient luck to them. I mean, how oftentimes does a SUPERSTORM dismiss up??
IN GOOD TIMES
Aware that my see powerfulness non receive got been at the best fourth dimension to showcase MONTAUK BEACHES, I went looking on GOOGLE IMAGES for a pic showing it at its best - came upwards amongst this 1 from NEWSDAY.
OK, hence it shows DITCH PLAINS some distance due east of my pix - but DP is withal a MONTAUK BEACH - I abide by most interesting the crowd - evidently HIGH SEASON earlier LABOR DAY.
Now here's the affair - plenty of people may come upwards as well as receive got a neat 24-hour interval nether idyllic conditions - I'm thinking 1 of those high-summer days amongst a hot low-cal offshore breeze blowing. And later on some dude from the upper due west side doesn't larn to the beach oftentimes fires inwards a TRIPADVISOR review proverb MONTAUK BEACH is the best beach inwards the world. It's not. By a long shot.
MONTAUK TOWN.
Thing I got from walking around the town was TRY-HARD. This is an OK coastal town but hence many places practise it ameliorate - inwards the NE banking concern fit out CAPE MAY inwards NEW JERSEY. Internationally at that topographic point are thousands: hell,a dozen other MAUI beaches way better. And nearby OAHU has at to the lowest degree some other one-half dozen.
MAYBE YOU CAN HELP - I experience a chip of a phony judging a beach I've non visited. Thing is at 73yo as well as 10000mi/16000km from EAST HAVEN I can't run into me making a supply trip to banking concern fit it out. So if whatever reader does, experience complimentary to lob inwards a report, mayhap some pix via the prompts on the TRIP REPORTS PAGE. Or to maintain it simple, a description via the COMMENTS department at the pes of this page. I'll transfer your input (whether yous handgrip amongst me or not) upwards to this department of the page.
STOP PRESS - coincidentally an e-mail virtually TRIPADVISOR'S TOP 25 WORLD BEACHES 2018 lobbed into my inbox when writing this page. Some of those places await idyllic. But I'm a chip sceptical virtually others. LA CONCHA at Spain's San Sebastian #6? Been there, was undewhelmed. I visited a dozen Castilian beaches better. BOURNEMOUTH England #14? MANLY Sydney #16? Sydney lonely has a one-half dozen better, Commonwealth of Australia hundreds.
TRIPADVISOR doesn't explicate its methodology but judging yesteryear some of these selections it seems it could endure on the publish of reviewers' EXCELLENT ratings or mayhap something slightly to a greater extent than sophisticated similar reviewers' EXCELLENT ratings per 100 reviews. Anyway I've ever thought readers' ratings a chip dodgy - besides many seem to utilization the organisation every bit an affirmation of their marvelous choice as well as dish out EXCELLENTS to places which inwards no way deserve them.
MY TOP BEACH WORLDWIDE
I tin necessitate heed yous thinking this TEZZA dude is way critical - hence what is his thought of a basis shape beach? See below:
WHITEHAVEN BEACH - HAMILTON ISLAND - QUEENSLAND
This 6km/3.7mi long strip of blindingly white silica has sand hence fine it squeaks when walked on. Offshore isle location agency it is uncrowded - gets a few visiting boats each end. My final see saw thousands (no hyperbole) of little rays inwards that inlet at right.
HAMILTON ISLAND looks apartment inwards this shot but is quite mountainous - amongst many patches of tropical rainforest.
Pic from WHITSUNDAYS AUSTRALIA com
This GOOGLE EARTH picture gives perspective.
Note I unremarkably prefer compact beaches which 6km IS NOT - but this identify is a standout.
Note besides I may endure a chip presumptuous claiming WORLD'S BEST when I haven't seen all the world's exceed beach areas - some of those on the TRIPADVISOR listing await pretty proficient to me.
MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE BEACH
Not the best I've seen but the 1 I similar most. This is WHITE BEACH inwards BROKEN HEAD NATURE RESERVE nigh BYRON BAY northern NSW. Suffering badly from tempest moving ridge assault non long after a TROPICAL CYCLONE (aka TYPHOON/HURRICANE) swell - the normal beach trouble is around the arrow. Note besides the sand is moisture to a higher identify which darkens the normal white colour.
This beach ticks all the boxes for me: it's compact betwixt ii protective headlands, backed yesteryear rainforested slopes, gets proficient surf, few people because of hard access as well as is vesture optional similar most beaches inwards this surface area (I've been a naturist since childhood).
GOOGLE EARTH picture shows to a greater extent than normal width as well as colour.
If yous ever see endure aware of rip-currents both ends as well as unremarkably ii or three along the beach. No worries, relax as well as larn amongst the flow, stick your arm inwards the air to attract the few surfer dudes who are unremarkably hanging around here. An ok stone puddle inwards rocks (der) exceed end.
FUN FACT - at that topographic point receive got been several shark attacks this department of coast (not this beach) inwards recent years. The proficient intelligence - alone 1 fatality.
WORST BEACH IN MY HOME TOWN
Not just shabby, as well as a hell of a lot nicer than MONTAUK inwards my humble opinion
Bottom of my town listing because it rarely attracts decent surf....and is non vesture optional (nor are the other 3). Although I 1 time saw ii immature ladies....
Best characteristic is I alive overlooking a dainty petty bay 300m from the far end.
CENTRAL LONG ISLAND BEACHES
FIRE ISLAND - DAVIS PARK-WATCH HILL BEACH
Watch Hill beach looking consume towards Davis Park
The to a higher identify is utilization of the beach which starts a few km due west of MONTAUK runs to a greater extent than than 100miles/160km downward the Atlantic side of LONG ISLAND to nigh JFK inwards southward QUEENS. In some sections it dives across inlets every bit BAY-HEAD BARRIERS to practise what coastal geomorphologists telephone band COASTAL LAGOONS. We would in all probability shape them every bit COASTAL LAKES. In other areas the coast kinks a chip inland as well as the sand continues inwards a direct trouble every bit as the seaward side of an offshore BARRIER ISLAND running parallel to LONG ISLAND (the whole barrier isle is really sand built upwards from millions of years of deposition) separated from the terra firma yesteryear a stretch of sheltered water. Because of tidal as well as river flows at that topographic point are gaps inwards these offshore barriers - SHINNECOCK INLET mentioned up-page is one.
NOTE - yous tend to larn BARRIER ISLANDS on coasts amongst relatively shallow H2O offshore. They are a major characteristic of the States Atlantic Coast as well as the Gulf of Mexico.
FIRE ISLAND is 1 of the to a greater extent than eastern of LONG ISLAND's barrier islands.
The sheltered stretch of H2O betwixt FIRE ISLAND as well as mainland LONG ISLAND varies inwards holler - from the southward GREAT SOUTH BAY - NICOLL BAY - PATCHOGUE BAY.
DAVIS PARK is 4.5mi/7.2km from the ferry pier inwards SOUTH PATCHOGUE.
FIRE ISLAND is over 22mi/38km long but rattling narrow similar most barrier islands - alone 350yds/320m at DAVIS PARK.
Bay is a dissimilar color than body of body of water because it is much to a greater extent than shallow. These bays tin fill upwards inwards over fourth dimension - this appears to endure happening inwards several spots along the JERSEY SHORE southward of NYC
Not existent wide. DAVIS PARK is a little settlement of mainly vacation houses - WATCH HILL a brusk distance due east is primarily a MARINA, no settlement hither although the nearest DAVIS PARK places are a one-half mile/800m from the piers. ii marinas hence unopen together suggests a bunch of boaties come upwards across hither dainty days inwards high season.
Sea mist withal hanging around on arrival at DAVIS PARK MARINA abt 0930 - presently burnt off.
This neat pic from FIRE ISLAND AND BEYOND newsletter was shot MARCH 2018 showing a STORM SURGE high tide from much the same position/turn 180degrees from my arrivals pic to a higher identify this. STORM SURGE looks abt. 2m/6.5ft. At to the lowest degree at that topographic point are no destructive waves adding to the chaos hither - but I wouldn't similar to endure over on the beach side.
THOUGHT - I wonder how much of the to a higher identify flooding may endure due to FRESH WATER run-off from storm-filled"mainland" (Long Island) rivers as well as streams, which can't go out to sea thru the narrow gaps betwixt the barrier islands fast enough?
Maybe the tempest surge on the body of body of water side wasn't every bit high (although if yous click the to a higher identify link, the tempest moving ridge harm was),
Thing is nosotros don't receive got barrier islands where I alive as well as hence I don't know much virtually this stuff.
WATCH HILL BEACH looking west. This is plough 180 degrees as well as shoot from the opening shot.
The western cease of FIRE ISLAND is virtually 8km/5mi upwards at that topographic point inwards the mist.
As yous tin run into the beach (at to the lowest degree inwards mid SEPT 2018 is goose egg to larn excited about. Narrow (check the high tide grade - I'm glad I didn't have to walk the 1300m/1430yds upwards hither from DAVIS PARK at high tide [actually at that topographic point is a path behind the fore-dune]), plenty of weed debris non all that attractive.
This is the staircase upwards from the beach to the cross dunes rail to WATCH HILL MARINA.
As yous tin run into plenty of novel timber on the construction suggesting harm inwards the March storm.
Beach hasn't rebuilt much - banking concern fit the high tide mark.
At to the lowest degree the fore-dune hither is a chip higher than at MONTAUK.
Back at DAVIS PARK I shot this around 1130 - the locals had decided to practise a chip of beach fourth dimension - 'til as well as hence I'd alone seen ii other people on the beach on a reasonably dainty day. As I was warned, nigh NYC beach areas croak after Labor Day. But okay, it was a Monday.
Thing that gets me was how the surface area had non rebuilt much after the March tempest half dozen months before. Compare the to a higher identify to the newsletter pic below....
....given plenty fine weather, beaches unremarkably rebuild after a bad storm. Looks similar Spring/Summer did non receive got much fine conditions here.
Arrow shows tempest moving ridge "cut" on fore-dune - which doesn't appear every bit high every bit along the beach at WATCH HILL. But that happens when yous construct on dunes.
A lady inwards PATCHOGUE told me she used to vacation inwards a dune-front identify on FIRE ISLAND dorsum inwards the 24-hour interval but the whole street disappeared amongst SUPERSTORM SANDY. The to a higher identify may receive got been 1 street inland.
NOTE - THIS IS Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 WORK IN PROGRESS, SHOULD BE FINISHED IN Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 FEW WEEKS.
tezza OCT21.
DAVIS PARK DAMAGE MARCH 2018
SANDY Sumber http://tezza-thailandbeachesandislands.blogspot.com/
visited September 2018
THE HAMPTON BEACHES - UPPER LONG ISLAND
The HAMPTONS portion takes upwards virtually the eastern-most 3rd of LONG ISLAND. There had been much debate (rec. read - some amusing comments) virtually whether a identify is inwards the HAMPTONS or non - but the full general consensus is anywhere due east of the SHINNECOCK INLET/CANAL is inwards these days EXCEPT for SHELTER ISLAND (maybe all that hoi poloi partying upsets the sensitivity of the rich dudes). Note WESTHAMPTON due west of the trouble misses out - from what I tin get together many of its residents are glad non to endure associated amongst over-rich "citidiots".
Originally the HAMPTONS was regarded every bit that surface area around the towns of EAST HAMPTON as well as SOUTH HAMPTON but over the yesteryear 50 years to a greater extent than as well as to a greater extent than rich folk from NYC looking for a non besides distant beach/near-beach escape receive got expanded it to its introduce size.
Note SOUTH ARM as well as NORTH ARM. The latter is way to a greater extent than rural but because it has WINE GROWING as well as broad opened upwards spaces for the large terra firma retreat, has equal cachet amongst the snobs.
OVER-HYPED as well as OVER-PRICED.
My convey on the HAMPTONS:
These yesteryear 50 years I've read heaps virtually New Yorkers escaping to THE HAMPTONS for an upmarket weekend or vacation - how rattling rich dudes receive got the BIG ESTATE there. I thought this must endure somewhere VERY special - mayhap a chip similar the COTE D'AZUR.
It 's NOT.
By basis standards this is a rattling ordinary surface area amongst pretty underwhelming countryside (most of LONG ISLAND is the effect of glacial outwash as well as sand deposition hence yous are looking at fairly apartment rattling ordinary countryside - UPPER NY STATE kills it amongst some truly lovely areas) and ordinary beaches (none I saw would brand my exceed 1000. Hell the best wasn't every bit proficient every bit the worst of the four inwards my dwelling identify town (pic downward page) - as well as THAT wouldn't brand my1000).
But the affair is all those rich dudes receive got bid upwards the toll of existent estate as well as hyperboled the pretense that this is somewhere rattling special. By basis standards it's not. I tin holler back of dozens of places inwards the GREEK ISLANDS as well as SPAIN lonely would kill it.
The giggle is, thank yous to Australia's ridiculous existent estate boom, I could sell my fairly little seaside dwelling identify non far from SYDNEY as well as purchase a pretty proficient HAMPTONS' articulation - non 1 of those huge trophy spreads but far ameliorate than the average. And I'm a retired dude on a rattling skinny part-pension. Take that NYC rich poseurs.
MONTAUK BEACHES
Montauk is every bit far due east every bit towns larn at LONG ISLAND/THE HAMPTONS. It's a chip over three hours yesteryear educate from MANHATTAN - as well as abt 120 route miles. xx years agone it was considered a dormitory surface area for HAMPTON service workers, but the inevitable expansion caused yesteryear trendoids seeking a beach escape identify has it directly firmly entrenched every bit utilization of the existent deal.
UNDERWHELMING MONTAUK BEACH
Note the relative lack of beach goers early on afternoon on a dainty SEPT Sun - but nosotros are talking mayhap ii weeks after LABOR DAY, the official cease of summertime - as well as several sources said people simply STOP going to the beach after Labor Day. This is a chip of a surprise to me - from my travels inwards OZ, the MEDITERRANEAN as well as SE ASIA I've constitute the calendar month or to a greater extent than after HIGH SEASON (what nosotros would telephone band SHOULDER SEASON) is an splendid fourth dimension for depression budget dudes to move - conditions is withal splendid as well as prices/vacancies way lower. Seems NE States has no Shoulder Season.
What worries me to a higher identify are those dune-perched motels as well as units - adjacent super tempest they confront tempest surges amongst the associated moving ridge assault as well as undermining. Thing is this FORE-DUNE is wretched protection-wise yesteryear basis standards - fundamental MONTAUK is simply behind as well as faces inundation.
There are precedents - EG several communities on a similar stretch of FIRE ISLAND beach (to the southward of MONTAUK)_have lost start row beachfront residences to STORM SURGE/WAVE ATTACK during SUPERSTORM SANDY inwards 2012. As recent every bit MARCH 2018 the "new" beachfront properties suffered bad tempest moving ridge cut.
MONTAUK VIA GOOGLE EARTH
From hither the beach continues 110mi/180km due west - yesteryear inlets similar SHINNECOCK mentionsed above, along several BARRIER ISLANDS. all the way to CONEY ISLAND/ROCKAWAY BEACH nigh JFK.
IN GOOD TIMES
OK, hence it shows DITCH PLAINS some distance due east of my pix - but DP is withal a MONTAUK BEACH - I abide by most interesting the crowd - evidently HIGH SEASON earlier LABOR DAY.
Now here's the affair - plenty of people may come upwards as well as receive got a neat 24-hour interval nether idyllic conditions - I'm thinking 1 of those high-summer days amongst a hot low-cal offshore breeze blowing. And later on some dude from the upper due west side doesn't larn to the beach oftentimes fires inwards a TRIPADVISOR review proverb MONTAUK BEACH is the best beach inwards the world. It's not. By a long shot.
MONTAUK TOWN.
MY MONTAUK ACCOMMODATION
I kinda thought post LABOR DAY as well as a Sun nighttime would larn me some discounted accommodation. But every bit mentioned up-page, Montauk places tend to endure EYE-BLEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE. Like airbnb places at a K a night?? Shoulder season??
The alone identify I constitute at a somewhere acceptable toll was DAUNT'S ALBATROSS MOTEL Even then, I ended upwards paying the most of my four calendar week NE States trip which included a nighttime at an ANTLANTIC CITY CASINO. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 few steps upwards from DAUNT'S.
CONCLUSION - some of yous may endure thinking I was less than gruntled virtually MONTAUK. Not incorrect kemodabes. Pretentious poseurs' paradise.
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EAST HAMPTON BEACH.
In my pre-trip question I constitute a much debate (rec. read - some amusing comments) virtually whether a identify is inwards the HAMPTONS or non - but the full general consensus is anywhere due east of the SHINNECOCK INLET/CANAL is inwards these days EXCEPT for SHELTER ISLAND (maybe all that hoi poloi partying upsets the sensitivity of the rich dudes). Note WESTHAMPTON due west of the trouble misses out - from what I tin get together many of its residents are glad non to endure associated amongst over-rich "citidiots".
Originally the HAMPTONS was regarded every bit that surface area around the towns of EAST HAMPTON as well as SOUTH HAMPTON but over the yesteryear 50 years to a greater extent than as well as to a greater extent than rich folk from NYC looking for a non besides distant beach/near-beach escape receive got expanded it to its introduce size.
Note SOUTH ARM as well as NORTH ARM. The latter is way to a greater extent than rural but because it has WINE GROWING as well as broad opened upwards spaces for the large terra firma retreat, has equal cachet amongst the snobs.
OVER-HYPED as well as OVER-PRICED.
My convey on the HAMPTONS:
These yesteryear 50 years I've read heaps virtually New Yorkers escaping to THE HAMPTONS for an upmarket weekend or vacation - how rattling rich dudes receive got the BIG ESTATE there. I thought this must endure somewhere VERY special - mayhap a chip similar the COTE D'AZUR.
It 's NOT.
By basis standards this is a rattling ordinary surface area amongst pretty underwhelming countryside (most of LONG ISLAND is the effect of glacial outwash as well as sand deposition hence yous are looking at fairly apartment rattling ordinary countryside - UPPER NY STATE kills it amongst some truly lovely areas) and ordinary beaches (none I saw would brand my exceed 1000. Hell the best wasn't every bit proficient every bit the worst of the four inwards my dwelling identify town (pic downward page) - as well as THAT wouldn't brand my1000).
But the affair is all those rich dudes receive got bid upwards the toll of existent estate as well as hyperboled the pretense that this is somewhere rattling special. By basis standards it's not. I tin holler back of dozens of places inwards the GREEK ISLANDS as well as SPAIN lonely would kill it.
The giggle is, thank yous to Australia's ridiculous existent estate boom, I could sell my fairly little seaside dwelling identify non far from SYDNEY as well as purchase a pretty proficient HAMPTONS' articulation - non 1 of those huge trophy spreads but far ameliorate than the average. And I'm a retired dude on a rattling skinny part-pension. Take that NYC rich poseurs.
MONTAUK BEACHES
Montauk is every bit far due east every bit towns larn at LONG ISLAND/THE HAMPTONS. It's a chip over three hours yesteryear educate from MANHATTAN - as well as abt 120 route miles. xx years agone it was considered a dormitory surface area for HAMPTON service workers, but the inevitable expansion caused yesteryear trendoids seeking a beach escape identify has it directly firmly entrenched every bit utilization of the existent deal.
UNDERWHELMING MONTAUK BEACH
Note the relative lack of beach goers early on afternoon on a dainty SEPT Sun - but nosotros are talking mayhap ii weeks after LABOR DAY, the official cease of summertime - as well as several sources said people simply STOP going to the beach after Labor Day. This is a chip of a surprise to me - from my travels inwards OZ, the MEDITERRANEAN as well as SE ASIA I've constitute the calendar month or to a greater extent than after HIGH SEASON (what nosotros would telephone band SHOULDER SEASON) is an splendid fourth dimension for depression budget dudes to move - conditions is withal splendid as well as prices/vacancies way lower. Seems NE States has no Shoulder Season.
What worries me to a higher identify are those dune-perched motels as well as units - adjacent super tempest they confront tempest surges amongst the associated moving ridge assault as well as undermining. Thing is this FORE-DUNE is wretched protection-wise yesteryear basis standards - fundamental MONTAUK is simply behind as well as faces inundation.
There are precedents - EG several communities on a similar stretch of FIRE ISLAND beach (to the southward of MONTAUK)_have lost start row beachfront residences to STORM SURGE/WAVE ATTACK during SUPERSTORM SANDY inwards 2012. As recent every bit MARCH 2018 the "new" beachfront properties suffered bad tempest moving ridge cut.
MONTAUK VIA GOOGLE EARTH
From hither the beach continues 110mi/180km due west - yesteryear inlets similar SHINNECOCK mentionsed above, along several BARRIER ISLANDS. all the way to CONEY ISLAND/ROCKAWAY BEACH nigh JFK.
IN GOOD TIMES
OK, hence it shows DITCH PLAINS some distance due east of my pix - but DP is withal a MONTAUK BEACH - I abide by most interesting the crowd - evidently HIGH SEASON earlier LABOR DAY.
Now here's the affair - plenty of people may come upwards as well as receive got a neat 24-hour interval nether idyllic conditions - I'm thinking 1 of those high-summer days amongst a hot low-cal offshore breeze blowing. And later on some dude from the upper due west side doesn't larn to the beach oftentimes fires inwards a TRIPADVISOR review proverb MONTAUK BEACH is the best beach inwards the world. It's not. By a long shot.
MONTAUK TOWN.
MAYBE YOU CAN HELP - I experience a chip of a phony judging a beach I've non visited. Thing is at 73yo as well as 10000mi/16000km from EAST HAVEN I can't run into me making a supply trip to banking concern fit it out. So if whatever reader does, experience complimentary to lob inwards a report, mayhap some pix via the prompts on the TRIP REPORTS PAGE. Or to maintain it simple, a description via the COMMENTS department at the pes of this page. I'll transfer your input (whether yous handgrip amongst me or not) upwards to this department of the page.
STOP PRESS - coincidentally an e-mail virtually TRIPADVISOR'S TOP 25 WORLD BEACHES 2018 lobbed into my inbox when writing this page. Some of those places await idyllic. But I'm a chip sceptical virtually others. LA CONCHA at Spain's San Sebastian #6? Been there, was undewhelmed. I visited a dozen Castilian beaches better. BOURNEMOUTH England #14? MANLY Sydney #16? Sydney lonely has a one-half dozen better, Commonwealth of Australia hundreds.
TRIPADVISOR doesn't explicate its methodology but judging yesteryear some of these selections it seems it could endure on the publish of reviewers' EXCELLENT ratings or mayhap something slightly to a greater extent than sophisticated similar reviewers' EXCELLENT ratings per 100 reviews. Anyway I've ever thought readers' ratings a chip dodgy - besides many seem to utilization the organisation every bit an affirmation of their marvelous choice as well as dish out EXCELLENTS to places which inwards no way deserve them.
MY TOP BEACH WORLDWIDE
I tin necessitate heed yous thinking this TEZZA dude is way critical - hence what is his thought of a basis shape beach? See below:
WHITEHAVEN BEACH - HAMILTON ISLAND - QUEENSLAND
HAMILTON ISLAND looks apartment inwards this shot but is quite mountainous - amongst many patches of tropical rainforest.
Pic from WHITSUNDAYS AUSTRALIA com
Note I unremarkably prefer compact beaches which 6km IS NOT - but this identify is a standout.
Note besides I may endure a chip presumptuous claiming WORLD'S BEST when I haven't seen all the world's exceed beach areas - some of those on the TRIPADVISOR listing await pretty proficient to me.
MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE BEACH
This beach ticks all the boxes for me: it's compact betwixt ii protective headlands, backed yesteryear rainforested slopes, gets proficient surf, few people because of hard access as well as is vesture optional similar most beaches inwards this surface area (I've been a naturist since childhood).
If yous ever see endure aware of rip-currents both ends as well as unremarkably ii or three along the beach. No worries, relax as well as larn amongst the flow, stick your arm inwards the air to attract the few surfer dudes who are unremarkably hanging around here. An ok stone puddle inwards rocks (der) exceed end.
FUN FACT - at that topographic point receive got been several shark attacks this department of coast (not this beach) inwards recent years. The proficient intelligence - alone 1 fatality.
WORST BEACH IN MY HOME TOWN
Bottom of my town listing because it rarely attracts decent surf....and is non vesture optional (nor are the other 3). Although I 1 time saw ii immature ladies....
Best characteristic is I alive overlooking a dainty petty bay 300m from the far end.
CENTRAL LONG ISLAND BEACHES
FIRE ISLAND - DAVIS PARK-WATCH HILL BEACH
The to a higher identify is utilization of the beach which starts a few km due west of MONTAUK runs to a greater extent than than 100miles/160km downward the Atlantic side of LONG ISLAND to nigh JFK inwards southward QUEENS. In some sections it dives across inlets every bit BAY-HEAD BARRIERS to practise what coastal geomorphologists telephone band COASTAL LAGOONS. We would in all probability shape them every bit COASTAL LAKES. In other areas the coast kinks a chip inland as well as the sand continues inwards a direct trouble every bit as the seaward side of an offshore BARRIER ISLAND running parallel to LONG ISLAND (the whole barrier isle is really sand built upwards from millions of years of deposition) separated from the terra firma yesteryear a stretch of sheltered water. Because of tidal as well as river flows at that topographic point are gaps inwards these offshore barriers - SHINNECOCK INLET mentioned up-page is one.
NOTE - yous tend to larn BARRIER ISLANDS on coasts amongst relatively shallow H2O offshore. They are a major characteristic of the States Atlantic Coast as well as the Gulf of Mexico.
FIRE ISLAND is 1 of the to a greater extent than eastern of LONG ISLAND's barrier islands.
DAVIS PARK is 4.5mi/7.2km from the ferry pier inwards SOUTH PATCHOGUE.
FIRE ISLAND is over 22mi/38km long but rattling narrow similar most barrier islands - alone 350yds/320m at DAVIS PARK.
Bay is a dissimilar color than body of body of water because it is much to a greater extent than shallow. These bays tin fill upwards inwards over fourth dimension - this appears to endure happening inwards several spots along the JERSEY SHORE southward of NYC
Sea mist withal hanging around on arrival at DAVIS PARK MARINA abt 0930 - presently burnt off.
THOUGHT - I wonder how much of the to a higher identify flooding may endure due to FRESH WATER run-off from storm-filled"mainland" (Long Island) rivers as well as streams, which can't go out to sea thru the narrow gaps betwixt the barrier islands fast enough?
Maybe the tempest surge on the body of body of water side wasn't every bit high (although if yous click the to a higher identify link, the tempest moving ridge harm was),
Thing is nosotros don't receive got barrier islands where I alive as well as hence I don't know much virtually this stuff.
The western cease of FIRE ISLAND is virtually 8km/5mi upwards at that topographic point inwards the mist.
As yous tin run into the beach (at to the lowest degree inwards mid SEPT 2018 is goose egg to larn excited about. Narrow (check the high tide grade - I'm glad I didn't have to walk the 1300m/1430yds upwards hither from DAVIS PARK at high tide [actually at that topographic point is a path behind the fore-dune]), plenty of weed debris non all that attractive.
As yous tin run into plenty of novel timber on the construction suggesting harm inwards the March storm.
Beach hasn't rebuilt much - banking concern fit the high tide mark.
At to the lowest degree the fore-dune hither is a chip higher than at MONTAUK.
Thing that gets me was how the surface area had non rebuilt much after the March tempest half dozen months before. Compare the to a higher identify to the newsletter pic below....
Arrow shows tempest moving ridge "cut" on fore-dune - which doesn't appear every bit high every bit along the beach at WATCH HILL. But that happens when yous construct on dunes.
A lady inwards PATCHOGUE told me she used to vacation inwards a dune-front identify on FIRE ISLAND dorsum inwards the 24-hour interval but the whole street disappeared amongst SUPERSTORM SANDY. The to a higher identify may receive got been 1 street inland.
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tezza OCT21.
DAVIS PARK DAMAGE MARCH 2018
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